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I'm OK because I got a season ticket before being made redundant, but I wonder what others think about giving those on Job Seekers Allowance of £64 per week a special admission price to games of say £8 on proof of JSA.

With the continual rise in unemployment, I'm sure that it will be affecting a number of supporters now and into the future. This would be a magnificent gesture by the club and provide some much needed relief from the boredom and psychological effect of being out of work.

Christies Child wrote:I'm OK because I got a season ticket before being made redundant, but I wonder what others think about giving those on Job Seekers Allowance of £64 per week a special admission price to games of say £8 on proof of JSA.

With the continual rise in unemployment, I'm sure that it will be affecting a number of supporters now and into the future. This would be a magnificent gesture by the club and provide some much needed relief from the boredom and psychological effect of being out of work.

Maybe you should have been at work and not watching every move of Morecambe training from behind a bush. BTW - I have been made redundant in my time so I'm not being flippant

The majority of my business was conducted on the mobile 'phone, that's how I got time to 'hide behind bushes'.

Some clubs do it.
I think it's a perfectly sound idea.
The country is in a prolonged financial mess.
There's no end in sight.
Offering a concession to supporters who have found themselves out of work might just be the difference between them continuing to turn up regularly, or drifting away.
Once a supporter has drifted, and found something else to occupy his time, it's hard to coax them back.

Peter wrote:Some clubs do it.
I think it's a perfectly sound idea.
The country is in a prolonged financial mess.
There's no end in sight.
Offering a concession to supporters who have found themselves out of work might just be the difference between them continuing to turn up regularly, or drifting away.
Once a supporter has drifted, and found something else to occupy his time, it's hard to coax them back.

It's probably a hard one for the club as they have to keep generating revenue or as we found out last season the League will put in a transfer embargo.

Other bigger clubs than us in the Premier league can get away with it but alas us smaller clubs are penalised.

Can i have a reduction as well, i work, pay my taxes pay my mortgage pay my gas and electric pay my water etc etc and what bit i have left i go to the football

My dad has a family with four children, and earns barely more than the minimum wage, can he get in cheap

sgt major wrote:

Peter wrote:Some clubs do it.
I think it's a perfectly sound idea.
The country is in a prolonged financial mess.
There's no end in sight.
Offering a concession to supporters who have found themselves out of work might just be the difference between them continuing to turn up regularly, or drifting away.
Once a supporter has drifted, and found something else to occupy his time, it's hard to coax them back.

It's probably a hard one for the club as they have to keep generating revenue or as we found out last season the League will put in a transfer embargo.

Other bigger clubs than us in the Premier league can get away with it but alas us smaller clubs are penalised.

£8 or whatever it would be is better and retaining a supporter, than £0 and loosing a supporter.

Apply for the free bus pass and then you can travel to the away games for free!

Also I work shifts and can't get to all games, so can I have more holiday entitlement so I can get to all the games.

Would not be against people that have more spare time on their hands volunteering to help the club, grounds work, promoting the club (door to door) etc i'm sure the club always is happy to have more free help.

The club could repay them with discounted entrance fees or free entry.

Abbo wrote:Can i have a reduction as well, i work, pay my taxes pay my mortgage pay my gas and electric pay my water etc etc and what bit i have left i go to the football

I fully agree.

mrpotatohead wrote:My dad has a family with four children, and earns barely more than the minimum wage, can he get in cheap

I agree with this also

There's plenty of people out there who can't be arsed getting a job and live at home sponging off the state and their parents/relatives/whoever else. Why should they be rewarded for their laziness? Bollocks to that. Get a job then you can afford to pay full whack. If not then you have to accept that if you can't afford it, it's tough titty. There's plenty of jobs out there if you're prepared to get your hands dirty. And not necessarily then either.

I agree with reduced admission for students, at least they're furthering themselves, but for slobs who think the world owes them a living, they can sod off as far as I'm concerned. I disassociate CC from that though, as I realise his position. He's one of the few, however. I'm sure other people in his position (i.e. professional people made redundant or something) wouldn't want reduced admission anyway and would be prepared to live within their means.

Number 1 wrote:

Abbo wrote:Can i have a reduction as well, i work, pay my taxes pay my mortgage pay my gas and electric pay my water etc etc and what bit i have left i go to the football

I fully agree.

mrpotatohead wrote:My dad has a family with four children, and earns barely more than the minimum wage, can he get in cheap

I agree with this also

There's plenty of people out there who can't be arsed getting a job and live at home sponging off the state and their parents/relatives/whoever else. Why should they be rewarded for their laziness? Bollocks to that. Get a job then you can afford to pay full whack. If not then you have to accept that if you can't afford it, it's tough titty. There's plenty of jobs out there if you're prepared to get your hands dirty. And not necessarily then either.

I agree with reduced admission for students, at least they're furthering themselves, but for slobs who think the world owes them a living, they can sod off as far as I'm concerned. I disassociate CC from that though, as I realise his position. He's one of the few, however. I'm sure other people in his position (i.e. professional people made redundant or something) wouldn't want reduced admission anyway and would be prepared to live within their means.

Well said. Also, as suggested above, why not put oneself forward for a couple of hours' help down at the ground if you can't afford to get in - this doesn't only apply to the unemployed either.

What's wrong with giving the unemployed a discount? All this "i pay my taxes, so why shouldn't I get a discount'' nonsence really doesn't wash with me. Loads of people are out of work through no fault of their own at the moment and those who 'really don't want a job' are usually only like that because of their esteem/social issues.

Whether someone who only has an income of 64 quid a week could still afford a ticket is debatable though. How about free tickets for folk who are on the dole but are prepared to go and give out some fliers/poster or help-out on a match day?

Number 1 wrote:

Abbo wrote:Can i have a reduction as well, i work, pay my taxes pay my mortgage pay my gas and electric pay my water etc etc and what bit i have left i go to the football

I fully agree.

mrpotatohead wrote:My dad has a family with four children, and earns barely more than the minimum wage, can he get in cheap

I agree with this also

There's plenty of people out there who can't be arsed getting a job and live at home sponging off the state and their parents/relatives/whoever else. Why should they be rewarded for their laziness? Bollocks to that. Get a job then you can afford to pay full whack. If not then you have to accept that if you can't afford it, it's tough titty. There's plenty of jobs out there if you're prepared to get your hands dirty. And not necessarily then either.
I agree with reduced admission for students, at least they're furthering themselves, but for slobs who think the world owes them a living, they can sod off as far as I'm concerned. I disassociate CC from that though, as I realise his position. He's one of the few, however. I'm sure other people in his position (i.e. professional people made redundant or something) wouldn't want reduced admission anyway and would be prepared to live within their means.

Is there? Since my company went bust 3 weeks ago, I've applied for 56 positions some of which don't require whatever expertise I have. Of the 56 only 2 have had bothered to reply to date which can be soul destroying when you know that you've got the skill set and the talent to be a worthy candidate.

The Job Centre can't be arsed either. 3 minutes the otherday and that was it. No advice. No help. Nothing at all.

Sorry if this sounds as though I'm annoyed but I'm so bloody frustrated with all this money that is being ploughed into Banks to finance companies in trouble like mine was and when we go to the bank...sorry no way will we help.

Sorry fellow SVs...rant over!

Must say the job centre is an absolute soul destroying environment. You often think how the heck can those bums (advisors) have jobs, when I could do a far better job of doing what they do.

Its a shock to them when someone enters the place that wants to find work.

This is a tricky one because people are not going to agree on this there are some poeple who would snap your hand off at a a lower price season ticket who are happy to just sit at home and live off tas payers money and there are others who have a family and a full time Job who work hard and earn the income so why should they have to pay full price for a season ticket when they work twice as hard as someone who get in for not as as much and does very little for anyone else other than themselves

heysham_mfc wrote:This is a tricky one because people are not going to agree on this there are some poeple who would snap your hand off at a a lower price season ticket who are happy to just sit at home and live off tas payers money and there are others who have a family and a full time Job who work hard and earn the income so why should they have to pay full price for a season ticket when they work twice as hard as someone who get in for not as as much and does very little for anyone else other than themselves

I think no one would complain about those that volunteer and help the club in someway getting in for free. Would seperate the bums from those that find themselves out of work through no fault of their own.

If CC is short of cash perhaps he could sell something by advertising it on shrim.........

On second thoughts - not one of my better ideas.

I would like to disassociate myself from this very, very stupid suggestion.

Please, Mr Fitton, SIR, don't boot me off shrimpsvoices.
I promise to be good from now on in.

SPARK wrote:

heysham_mfc wrote:This is a tricky one because people are not going to agree on this there are some poeple who would snap your hand off at a a lower price season ticket who are happy to just sit at home and live off tas payers money and there are others who have a family and a full time Job who work hard and earn the income so why should they have to pay full price for a season ticket when they work twice as hard as someone who get in for not as as much and does very little for anyone else other than themselves

I think no one would complain about those that volunteer and help the club in someway getting in for free. Would seperate the bums from those that find themselves out of work through no fault of their own.

agreed if people were to come and say 'hey I could do a couple of hours working at the ground doing odds jobs etc' then great I am sure the club would love the extra help but there are some people out there who are more than happy to sit back and let everyone else do the hard work for them

SPARK wrote:Would not be against people that have more spare time on their hands volunteering to help the club, grounds work, promoting the club (door to door) etc i'm sure the club always is happy to have more free help.

The club could repay them with discounted entrance fees or free entry.

Fine if you live within walking/cycling distance of Crusty. Buses cost, and that would wipe out any saving a reduced price ticket would offer.
Touting the club door-to-door? How would that work? The local population know that Morecambe FC exist. The vast majority though, backed by the relatively low attendances, simply ain't interested, or have other much more exciting and interesting activities that occupy their Saturday afternoons.
I doubt too that benefit scroungers would be interested in receiving a concession. It'd still cost them £x, better spent on White Lightning.
I'm talking about genuine supporters who, through no fault of their own, have been priced out.

Peter wrote:I'm talking about genuine supporters who, through no fault of their own, have been priced out.

Many genuine supporters may also be priced out simply on a lack of income through no fault of their own. Do they get a discount as well? Will the club be means testing supporters to decide whether they qualify?

It's about opinions.
You've got mine, and I appreciate yours.
It simply wouldn't bother me to know that someone stood next to me had got a concession because he was receiving JSA.
It could be me next week.
You can argue about the worthiness of concessions for pensioners, students, NHS workers and the Armed Forces.
Do you moan to Wetherspoons because NHS workers and the Armed Forces get a discount?

there are jobs out there, problem is some people won't do the jobs that are available.
you can apply for as many jobs as you can that YOU WANT to do and get no replies, but if you apply to be a cleaner, shelf stacker, bar worker you'll get a job no problem. It boils down to what you are prepared to do to stay off the Dole.
I was out of work for a week before i got myself to a job agency and did whatever they gave me! once that contract ran out I took the next thing and so on until I found a permanant position.
The key is to keep to yourself open to any avenue, most companies offer in house training so no prior experience is needed.
I know this isn't the case for everyone but in my experience the people I know or who I have met who are out of work complain that there are no jobs out there, but what they mean is there is nothing that is like the work they have been previously trained for and done for the last 5, 10 or 15 years or so.
I am only 28 and already I've been a shelf stacker, a travel agent, a licensed bar manager, an Internet company telesale agent and now a Photocopier engineer. None of these jobs needed any particular qualifications and all the companies I have worked for train you on the job.

So basically, if your out of work, diversify and look outside the box. Theres very little excuse IMO

North Stand Shrimp's right..it is about pride and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Maybe if i was nearer 50 than 60 I'd look at things in a different light but talking to a number of my old clients and without exception they've all said the same thing....it's as much due to the age factor in my case as anything else. No company HR can say it or even suggest it, but we all know and I'll be honest given the choice of employing somebody 50 rather than 60, then the 50 year old wins everytime.

Enough from me on this topic.

Been told by a Burnley fan today that its £47 for a ticket plus travel,food,programme not much change out of £100 i would have thought, no wonder more people are starting to turn their backs on premier league football. Its starting to be beyond the realms of working people and god knows if you have a couple of footie mad kids wanting to buy into the whole premier league experience, the bubbles got to burst at some point and the consequences will be catastrophic for some of these rich Arabs plaything clubs

Number 1 wrote:

Abbo wrote:Can i have a reduction as well, i work, pay my taxes pay my mortgage pay my gas and electric pay my water etc etc and what bit i have left i go to the football

I fully agree.

mrpotatohead wrote:My dad has a family with four children, and earns barely more than the minimum wage, can he get in cheap

I agree with this also

There's plenty of people out there who can't be arsed getting a job and live at home sponging off the state and their parents/relatives/whoever else. Why should they be rewarded for their laziness? Bollocks to that. Get a job then you can afford to pay full whack. If not then you have to accept that if you can't afford it, it's tough titty. There's plenty of jobs out there if you're prepared to get your hands dirty. And not necessarily then either.

I agree with reduced admission for students, at least they're furthering themselves, but for slobs who think the world owes them a living, they can sod off as far as I'm concerned. I disassociate CC from that though, as I realise his position. He's one of the few, however. I'm sure other people in his position (i.e. professional people made redundant or something) wouldn't want reduced admission anyway and would be prepared to live within their means.

Yawn. Some people who are on job seekers allowence are actually wanting to work. Sometimes its easier said than done. I've been lucky enough to be only on the dole once, for about 6 weeks, and its not a pleasant experience. I find all this preaching about what you should and shouldn't do disgusting to be fair.