Bury 3 Morecambe 2 [Oates, Mandeville] iFollow thread

[cyprus-shrimp]

Looking at the BBC stats (and that's possibly not very accurate!!!), it would seem that we just have hardly any possession. It doesn't matter how good a footballing side we may have out there today, without the ball, we can do F*** ALL. So we obviously need somebody out there to dig in and get hold of the ball - and then for the rest to be able to keep possession and capitalise on it.

Difficult to know it that's fair (as I'm basing this on BBC stats), but interested to get the comments of those that are there or watching on i-follow.

[Keith]

Probably about right.
We had a good corner, then missed a sitter. Other than that, we've not done much.

[Freez]

Doing slightly better now but yep.. too eager to get rid of the ball and no-one seems to want it.

[Andy D]

2-2 all over it

[paschahound]

Much better now. Why couldn't we have played this well the whole match? Maybe it's the Oliver effect.

[Keith]

3-1
Pathetic defending.

Poor game after a couple of good matches. Has their keeper made a save?

[Freez]

Pushed up...caught out with a great ball over the top.
Need to get the spark back that we’ve shown in the last few games...and quick!

[bill ding]

So last season we had a solid defence but struggled to score , now we are struggling at both end to the pitch . Very worrying

[Freez]

Eye up! Cracking goal Mandeville!

[Keith]

What a belter!

[Westgate Wanderer]

Oh well, still two teams worse than us (amazingly)!

[bill ding]

Oh well, still two teams worse than us (amazingly)!

For how long ?

[Keith]

Poor again. We didn't create very much. I disagree with the iFollow lads, that we didn't have many chances to take. You knew Bury were going to get the third as soon as the pass out of their half had been made. Mandeville's goal was a cracker, but beyond that, not a lot to remember.

I don't think Bury were that good. They were niggly and professional. Every 50:50 they went down obviously and claimed a free kick, generally getting them. Three or four times in the second half, our players were shoved in the back, but stayed stood up, so no free kick given. If both players went down, they appealed before the whistle, we then complained to the ref after they'd been given the decision.

Watched it again, I think it was a definite penalty in the first half. The handball claim in the second half, I couldn't really say, one way or the other after watching it again twice. Wrong angle really.

Hope AJ is fit for Tuesday.

[bill ding]

Sod Tuesday , put the reserves including Oliver out and save the rest for the massive uphill struggle we have to come !

[Westgate Wanderer]

Just heard JB's interview on radio accy...... HOUSE!!

[fulwoodshrimp]

An awful first half in which our full backs ignored marking their man and the young centre half, Yarney, struggled. Second half we showed some improvement against a very average Bury side. We lack pace in the side and most attacks we built were reliant on hoof ball. I think it's going to be a long season and we are carrying several players that shouldn't be playing league football.

[glagys]

How did Oliver do when he came on?
And piggott he look like a prospect?

[fulwoodshrimp]

Piggott came on too late to influence the game. Oliver was his usual self, lumbering around with little effect. His goal return in the last 50+ games tell you all you need to know.

[Phoenix Shrimp 2017]

Bury had made the pitch as wide as possible and from the start played with wide men on both flanks. Consequently they had acres of room because we hadn't set up to defend this and they exploited the wide open spaces we left by pinging the ball wide at every opportunity, usually to a man with plenty of space. To be honest we were fortunate to still be in the game at half time. Gomez was given a start but looked out of his depth at league two level and contributed very little. As soon as Kev came on for Gomez early in the second half we looked more of a threat, but not really in any constructive way, it just gave us a tad more of a competitive edge up top. After that we huffed and puffed but never looked like getting much out of the game. Leitch-Smith was missed today as he has displayed a bit of nouse and can get into dangerous positions. All in all it's looking grim for the immediate future. Maybe Lavelle, Tutte and Leitch-Smith coming back into the team will help but at the moment it's hard to name two teams worse than us.

[fulwoodshrimp]

Bury had obviously done their homework and realised how weak we were defensively on both flanks. Their two wide men were left unmarked and free to attack whilst our defenders were 10-15 yards away! Our young centre half on loan looked out of his depth and the sooner Lavelle returns the better. All in all it's not looking good and it will be interesting to see how the new owners react.

[Westgate Wanderer]

Bury had obviously done their homework and realised how weak we were defensively on both flanks. Their two wide men were left unmarked and free to attack whilst our defenders were 10-15 yards away! Our young centre half on loan looked out of his depth and the sooner Lavelle returns the better. All in all it's not looking good and it will be interesting to see how the new owners react.

This form of not defending our flanks has been going on for years! Any progress is being hampered by our current manager, it's about time the owners made there presence felt!

[Gone_Shrimping]

Just watched the highlights !

The goals Bury scored were just down to appalling defending. For the second goal a Bury player is just standing on our penalty spot with nobody anywhere near him just waiting for a cross that he passes into our net. We seem to have a problem signing left backs that can defend. We need Lavelle back in defence as soon as possible.

My team for Carlisle 4,4,2
Roche
Mills Old Lavelle Cranston
Manderville Fleming/or Tutte Wildig Oates
if fit Leith-Smith Oswell

[black morse]

Bury had obviously done their homework and realised how weak we were defensively on both flanks. Their two wide men were left unmarked and free to attack whilst our defenders were 10-15 yards away! Our young centre half on loan looked out of his depth and the sooner Lavelle returns the better. All in all it's not looking good and it will be interesting to see how the new owners react.

This form of not defending our flanks has been going on for years! Any progress is being hampered by our current manager, it's about time the owners made there presence felt!

Certainly in all the games I've seen them down here I have noticed the amount of room the opposition have on our flanks with none of our players anywhere near them is asking for trouble. Trouble is what happens with free crosses into our box or passes to one of their forwards just outside our box (unmarked!). The trouble is that Jim's answer will almost certainly be to replace an attacking player for a defender.

[Westgate Wanderer]

Bury had obviously done their homework and realised how weak we were defensively on both flanks. Their two wide men were left unmarked and free to attack whilst our defenders were 10-15 yards away! Our young centre half on loan looked out of his depth and the sooner Lavelle returns the better. All in all it's not looking good and it will be interesting to see how the new owners react.

This form of not defending our flanks has been going on for years! Any progress is being hampered by our current manager, it's about time the owners made there presence felt!

Certainly in all the games I've seen them down here I have noticed the amount of room the opposition have on our flanks with none of our players anywhere near them is asking for trouble. Trouble is what happens with free crosses into our box or passes to one of their forwards just outside our box (unmarked!). The trouble is that Jim's answer will almost certainly be to replace an attacking player for a defender.

He would probably like to start with eleven defenders! Trouble is if they don't close players down or track them it becomes so easy to score against us. We rarely close down their wide players, usually let t hem get an overlap to put in crosses. The crosses in turn cause chaos and usually end up in our net. The 2 Oldham goals are prime examples of this dire defending

[redrobo]

Sounds like that the majority on SV's see the marking of wide men closer as being one of the problems. If we as fans can see it, then I'm bloody certain visiting scouts who report back to the opposition will see it.

After encouraging home performance something was obviously wrong yesterday.

I just hope that Carlos gets another chance to show what he can do. Possibly a further appearance v Carlisle would be more than welcome. I listened to the reports of the game on Radio Accrington and Derek suggested that we were poor again YET in his post match interview after praising the opposition ( as always) Jim felt as though we played well in patches.