Derek off again!

[Westgate Wanderer]

Can we start another rumour of who the new manager is going to be then?? Wonder if nixon knows? I remember his nailed on rumour that Stockton was off to Fleetwood!

[Valkyrie_Wings]

What if the rumor began from Jason being pissed at Lawyers getting involved with the sale due to his shifty practices

[Keith]

My concern is that the rumours are possibly true and Panjab have indicated that they will be getting rid of Derek, but it can’t be announced because they haven’t completed the sale yet. Which would explain the silence - the board can’t confirm or deny.

Word is that they're waiting for the new manager appointment paperwork to be completed and signed as they don't want to announce Derek being sacked without announcing a new manager.

IF

these rumours are correct, it is a dangerous game to play. Obviously, Derek would already know this and be looking for another position as we drift along. We could end up in a position where Derek finds employment elsewhere and we're left with nobody, and no-one with authority to appoint a new manager. At a time when negotiations with new players will be advancing, suddenly, we don't know who the manager would be? Will any new recruits suit their style?

And at the moment, Whittingham is still the owner.

[captain sparkle]

And at the moment, Whittingham is still the owner.

And that worries me a little, all this lot could make them run a mile! (PW, I mean!)

[black morse]

Word is that they're waiting for the new manager appointment paperwork to be completed and signed as they don't want to announce Derek being sacked without announcing a new manager.

Getting really pissed off with this Derek came back to us last Summer when things were in a disastrous shape with virtually no players signed. He was only given the money to sign players at the last minute and then got very little support in the January transfer window. Relegation was odds on from the start of the season and taking all the circumstances into account I don't think Derek can be blamed. Who decided to sack him? If it was Jason it's a despicable last act. If it's the PWs I think it's a huge mistake which will alienate many fans. If it's the Board on their own then I think they've made the wrong decision at a very dangerous time and they should seriously consider their position.

If I've got it wrong and he hasn't been sacked then I apologise but the Board could have cleared the whole thing up yesterday.

[Billy bodger]

I’m not starting a rumour of a rumour, I think it’s a complete p is stake!! Ian Everett was mentioned to me, that must be, mustn’t it!!! But they said something of waiting for paperwork to come through, which fits in with what others are saying.

[John L]

I’m not starting a rumour of a rumour, I think it’s a complete p is stake!! Ian Everett was mentioned to me, that must be, mustn’t it!!! But they said something of waiting for paperwork to come through, which fits in with what others are saying.

If Ian Evett's been mentioned, it absolutely must be fake news!

[Billy bodger]

I’m not starting a rumour of a rumour, I think it’s a complete p is stake!! Ian Everett was mentioned to me, that must be, mustn’t it!!! But they said something of waiting for paperwork to come through, which fits in with what others are saying.

If Ian Evett's been mentioned, it absolutely must be fake news!

My reaction was buck off, replace Derek with him, after what he did on the touch line against us, away with you man.

[Hodgie1978]

Looking at Derek's LinkedIn page he's gone.

Being transparent with fans hasn't happened as mentioned in the forum.
Again I keep saying all Morecambe fans have at the moment is loyalty.

[Redalert1970]

Derek's page on LinkedIn says he's Morecambe manager from June 2024 - present

[Hodgie1978]

He uploaded his CV yesterday

[Phil Anderer]

If it's Evett I'll be telling Mrs A to go on her own if she insists on going.

[Wild Bill]

Sadly, every rumour on Derek leaving has come true. I suspect he's already been told but the new owner can't announce anything until the sale goes through. Bizarre though that he seems to have recruited some backroom staff very recently.

[dazza]

i can assure you i have it from a very very reliable source

derek is as much in the dark about this as we are as supporters
he is not aware of any of it, hes only met with the(proposed) new owners once for 10 minutes and that was months ago ,,, make of that what you will

[al1]

Dazza, is your source the same one that Redrobbo talks to?

[dazza]

no no no very much more reliable than that

[Redalert1970]

Maybe it's just me but I can't believe Derek doesn't know what's going on

[black morse]

Maybe it's just me but I can't believe Derek doesn't know what's going on

Assuming dazza's source is correct then I believe Derek doesn't know. Derek is one of the most honest guys around.

[Billy bodger]

So we have at least 2 sources of this story, both saying that their sources are reliable, with one being much more reliable than the first.

Now if the sources are from the Club, is that with the blessing of the owner or new prospective owners?

IF NOT there needs to be an investigation about who is doing the leeking, be it true or just starting false rumours.

On the Club not commenting, with it being such an important issue of the manager not being retained (as far as I know he’s still on a rolling contract), the silence could indicate it’s true!!

Then if in time it turns out false I am struggling to understand why it’s not being denied either a Club statement.

Then if in time it turns out true, the silence could be indicative of how the communication with the fans are going to be panning out in the future. NO CHANGE from our illustrious current owner.

[dazza]

i dont think my source can be any more reliable than the man himself....

thats how reliable my source is !!!!

[black morse]

OK, let's go back to the beginning. It appears that this 'information' stemmed from Alan Nixon and Peter O'Rorke. One could have copied it off the other and both get money for writing about football matters. Both are capable of reporting 'possiblities' as true facts. Have we been taken in by another of these imaginary facts!

[Redalert1970]

Hartlepool sacked manager in last 48 hours and replaced him with Simon Grayson

This type of thing does happen in football it's not a new thing

[Keith]

IF...

...it is true, then presumably, Derek won't be sacked. He's reportedly on a month-to-month rolling contract, so he'll simply be told that the contract won't be renewed at the end of this period. If he's found another club by the time that happens, it will appear that Derek left of his own volition, which both he and the club would prefer. If he hasn't found another job, then the club would make an announcement that they sacked him.

That would be my guess... IF...

[nobbyshrimp]

i can assure you i have it from a very very reliable source

derek is as much in the dark about this as we are as supporters
he is not aware of any of it, hes only met with the(proposed) new owners once for 10 minutes and that was months ago ,,, make of that what you will

And that is exactly as it should be because as it stands they are not our owners YET, Whittingham is at present.

[Keith]

derek is as much in the dark about this as we are as supporters
he is not aware of any of it, hes only met with the(proposed) new owners once for 10 minutes and that was months ago ,,, make of that what you will

And that is exactly as it should be because as it stands they are not our owners YET, Whittingham is at present.

I disagree. If the sale is close to conclusion, then Derek should have met with the proposed new owners soon after the sale is agreed, and be working with them during the legal process. This ensures as smooth a sale as possible and allows for continuity. What shouldn't happen is a sale be finalised, and only then begin to plan. We will need to hit the ground running. For example, Derek could be told 'as soon as the sale is concluded, we will be increasing your playing budget by 75%' or 'our intention is, once we own the club, to keep the playing budget the same as has already been agreed'. Derek would then know which players/agents to begin negotiations with, and/or, if he would want to build a working relationship with the new owners?

The last thing we want is the well oiled machine that is Morecambe FC being plunged into chaos on day one!